Friday, November 30, 2012

Palestinian's Triumph!!

About an hour ago, 4.30am New York time, the United Nations General Assembly voted overwhelmingly to recognise Palestine as a non-member state, giving a major diplomatic triumph to president Mahmud Abbas despite fierce opposition from the United States and Israel.

The 193-member assembly voted 138-9 with 41 abstentions for the resolution which enables the Palestinians to join UN agencies and sign international treaties.

The resolution upgrading the Palestinians' status (on par with the Vatican) was an embarassing diplomatic defeat to the US. Upon the announcement, a Palestinian flag was quickly unfurled on the floor of the General Assembly, behind their delegation.

Real independence, however, remains an elusive dream until the Palestinians negotiate a peace deal with the Israelis, who warned that the General Assembly action will only delay a lasting solution.

Israel still controls the West Bank, east Jerusalem, and access to Gaza, and it accused the Palestinians of bypassing negotiations with the campaign to upgrade their UN status.

US secretary of state Hillary Clinton had earlier criticised the bid by saying Abbas should renew negotiation with Tel Aviv first on how a peaceful solution can be worked out.

However, the US-brokered peace deal has remained as US-Israel 'diplomacy game' to deny the Palestinians of their sovereign rights.

Israel was worried if the new status would provide the legal basis for the Palestinians to charge the regime at the International Court of Justice for the crime it committed on the Palestinians.


IT.Sheiss said...

It's a step forward for the Palestinians but a UN General Assembly vote can be blocked by a veto by the Security Council members.

That's "democracy" in the UN.

sitamparam said...

for the first time ever, the world body acted in the right direction!

penangan said...

salam tn,

ia menunjukkan bahwa PBB mampu membuat keputusan yang adil bagi semua anggotanya tanpa dibelenggu oleh kuasa besar seperti amerika dan sekutunya.

dengan begini, keadilan dapat ditegakkan di seluruh dunia.

tahniah kepada warga palestin kerana pengiktirafan ini.

Anonymous said...

fuck the US, aussia and israel for trying to deny the rights of other people to live and enjoy their own sovereignty.

fuck also the devils who control the united nations for so long!

Anonymous said...


I think that refers only to full membership -

Rules for "UN membership" stated in the UN Charter: A state has to fill out an application stating its adherence to the Charter, the 15-member Security Council must then make a recommendation - nine yes votes and no veto by a permanent member, and only then can the General Assembly vote on membership, which must be approved by a two-thirds majority.

Anonymous said...

will the crazy bastards now stop firing missiles across the border?

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Anonymous said...

The plain and simple fact is: the victors rule the world.

Britain, US and Russia won the last war, so they dictated terms on the setting up of the UN. Having learnt from the failure of the previous League of Nations that lasted only about 20 years from World War I, the victors of World War II got themselves, plus France (German-occupied but also considered a victor as they were part of the Allied invasion of Germany) and China (somewhat strange process - India refused, Taiwan brought in, later communist China came in) as permanent members of the Security Council, and they decide on significant world issues to this day. Until there is another world war - if such a situation is conceivable under the potential devastation of the entire world from nuclear weapons.

They'd of course try to ensure that no others try to acquire nuclear weapons capability. The Christians and Jews will work hand and hand to ensure no other Muslim country does, apart from Pakistan that quietly did it. Even that, Pakistan's delivery system is not great - range of only a few hundred miles and no such things as inter-continental ballistic missiles been reported to have been tested by Pakistan.

That's the third largest Muslim country in the world. The largest, Indonesia, has for ages been mired in corruption, like most Muslim countries are, and appears to have no clue about nuclear weapons. The second largest Muslim-populated country, India, is not considered a Muslim country and cannot be counted upon for strength in uplifting the fate of Muslims in the world.

The Muslims had 500 years of glory being the strongest - having conquered parts of Spain, crushed the seat of the Christian Empire based on Constantinople (now Istanbul), pushed north and occupied parts of eastern Europe. They became the most advanced community in the world, leading in knowledge of mathematics, science etc, centred in Baghdad, until the the Mongols invaded and burnt that then centre of Muslim civilization to ruins in the 13th Century. And the Neocons, Jews and Zionists managed to egg on US, Britain and the "coalition of the willing" to bomb Iraq almost to destruction again about 10 years ago.


Anonymous said...


So, where do the Muslims and the Palestinians stand? Much as they are to day for the foreseeable future, unless a stroke of genius and divine providence can make them united, throw off corruption for the most part, and 1-2 more Muslim countries quietly develop nuclear weapons capability.

Not to kill, but as a "deterrent factor" - use the same words as the Zionist Israelis have been using since decades ago that enabled them to have nuclear capability and bully the Palestinians. But of course the Israelis would ceaselessly try to get the Americans to bomb Iranian nuclear facilities (which the Iranians insist are for peaceful use), or allow the Zionists to do the job themselves.

Could we Malaysia help in those terms? Not likely. Only 60% Muslims, divided into three groups with Anwar and Nik Aziz pulling the Malays/Muslims apart. We do have a smattering few nuclear physicists and astro physicists like Dr Noramly, Dr Mazlan etc for many years already but we haven't started even a nuclear facility for electrical power, have we?

So, our job is to continue speaking up and shouting at the bullies and the victors. It's a cruel world, like last night's Aljazeera correspondent's report on the Serb Christians' treatment of Muslims showed. We need to do the best we can, always.

Anonymous said...

2:08 AM,

To use your words and tone, will the Zionist bastards stop targeted killing of Hamas leaders? Using drones and all?

Bloody hell, Khalid Mishall, the Hamas leader, said to Christian Amanpour on CNN recently (first time revelation after 16 years) that agents of the dastardly Mossad, the Zionist Israeli Intelligence and Dirty Tricks Agency, shot poison into him while in Jordan 16 years ago when the same Setanyahu was Prime Minister.

He said then King Hussein told the Zionist PM in no uncertain terms to rush in immediately the antidote to the poison, otherwise he'd break relations with Israel. The Zionist SOG complied and Mishall lived to tell his story and to fight on.

That's the sort of things that'll make the bloody Zionists bow down. But they never learnt. That's why they have been hated all over the world, everywhere they went. Even the "gentlemen English" hated them. Read the 15th Century William Shakespeare's works like "The Merchant of Venice". Then Adolf Hitler and the Nazis killed some 6 million of them. Still, they haven't learnt.

You wanna support blokes like those, 2:08 AM?

Anonymous said...

2:08 AM,

Do get it into your head the fact that it was the Zionist Israelis who started first - by the targeted killing of the Head of Hamas Military Wing.

Anonymous said...

Sure the Palestinians will go to the International Court of Justice on Jewish illegal settlements in the West Bank, and other issues.

It's a matter of time. Abbas said that's not on his agenda right now. Musn't be, so soon after the UN General Assembly resolution - must thank his supporter nations first, show them that he and the Palestine Authority are reasonable people, never mind the Zionists' gangster and bully habits.

Now that they have a better standing and a higher forum to speak up at, get listened to and supported, they must move cautiously to continue to get support and sympathy.

But by God, I wish they go to ICJ to morrow morning and get the Zionists whacked the next day.

Anonymous said...

Now, now, is this not bullying by the bloody Israeli Zionists -

Israel to expand settlements

Plan for mass building on occupied territories seen as retaliation for UN recognition of Palestinian state

- Guardian UK news.