Sunday, July 29, 2012

Almost certain, PAS to leave Pakatan

"Some of our leaders are considering a move to pull the party out of Pakatan Rakyat if DAP and PKR do not approve its plan to introduce hudud law should PR wins the next general election. On my part, I think PAS should opt out."

A PAS central committee member from Terengganu told me over the phone last nite after receiving my text message.

"Even many of PAS members like the idea. We believe PAS can stand on its own as had been in the past (in Kelantan).

"Without DAP and PKR, we are confidence PAS can win more seats in the coming general election, God willing.

"We can understand DAP's rejection for hudud but not PKR Muslim leaders who actually know so much about the law. Our leaders had reiterated many times that hudud is meant for Muslims and will not affect the non-Muslims.

"Maybe some Muslim figures in PKR had to agree with DAP in order to keep Pakatan Rakyat's smooth running. I personally think PKR and DAP and team up well but only in certain aspects," he said without giving details.

He, however believes most Muslims in the country, including those with Umno are supporting PAS idea of a 'true' Islamic country in Malaysia.

"Why not? Syria, Saudi Arabia, Iran, Sudan and other Muslim countries have introduced hudud a long time ago and they never encountered with serious problems. Even expatriates and non-Muslim are comfortable with the system... and they never complained!

"Like it or not, PAS will lead the charge for hudud if PR wins... with or without the support from DAP and PKR. We will not compromise."

To a question about the possibility of PAS leaving Pakatan before the national poll, he said: "Almost certain... if they (DAP and PKR) reject hudud!"

No further comment.

36 comments:

tonik cop gajah said...

memang saya setuju sangat2 kalau pas tinggalkan pakatan haram tu.

pas ada kekuatan sendiri.

saya rasa elok pas muncul sebagai parti pembangkang melayu dan islam yang kuat bagi menyaingi dap dan pkr di parlimen.

ini lagi bagus daripada bersekongkol dengan setan2 tu!

Anonymous said...

Kah, kah, kah, JOKE OF THE CENTURY. Nice try. Try again next century.

Anonymous said...

why not?

just leave lar!

they are causing a lot of problems to pakatan rakyat already.

so, chao! chao! chao!!!!

lau said...

DAP and PKR speak the same wavelength while PAS is a bit extreme. DAP and PKR can joint hands in pakatan rakyat although PAS ops to be out of the pact, thats better. anwar, karpal and kit siang are already contemplating on the next move without PAS!

Anonymous said...

Who is the source of this statement? Put out deliberately to create rift among pakatan parties

Mahayudin said...

Good luck.UMNO provocator.

Both PAS and DAP and PKR are right in their stand on Hudud.
As a Muslim you cannot deny hudud.That is in the Quran.Therefore PAS is right.

As a secular country,DAP and PKR are right.You dont have the mandate to implement HuDud.You need 2/3 Parliment to agree to change constitution.

What do you do.Even if PAS leave Pakatan and join BN can they implement hudud.I dont think so.

I think majority of PAS leader are wise and they know how to handle their member.

They can look at Turkey,how long they take to control the army.Now Egypt,the President is from Muslim Brotherhood.He had to be extre careful not to offence the General.

hussin said...

"Without DAP and PKR, we are confidence PAS can win more seats in the coming general election, God willing."

will pas be able to form the govt? unity govt yeah? pas ganu dan unity govt berpisah tiada!

Anonymous said...

Yes PAS and UMNO can counter balance each other - not too backward and not too modernised.

Malaysia does NOT need PKR and DAP.

Anonymous said...

The prophet didn't win over the arabs in a day, PAS ought to demonstrate how great and tolerant Islam represents, form the next secular government and pursue its agenda within. By the UMNO being out of commission, will want to be back in again and hudud is no bearer to this end, so PAS has the option, whoever dance the hudud song, be the partner. But PAS should have learnt by now, laws are useless unless diligently enforced. Start by strict enforcement of present laws. If it can't do that, what's the different about hudud.

Larasepi said...

GOOD n high time too.!wat pe tunggu yg tak kenal dek untung..

Anonymous said...

big bullshits as RPK USED TO SAY

Anonymous said...

HUDUH IS NOT SUITABLE FOR HUMAN MALAYSIA. THE POLITICIANS ARE TOO CORRUPT AND ABUSE OF POWER. MANY INNOCENT WILL BE STONED TO DEATH, AMPUTATED, HANGED WITHOUT EVIDENCE BEING PROVEN IN THE COURT OF LAW.

STUPID HUDUH IS JUST A SO CALL RELIGIOUS MAN WORD, NOT A TRIAL JUDGE.

THE ACCUSED ARE QUILTY UNLESS PROVEN INNOCENT. MANY STORIES OF WOMEN RAPED AGAINST HER WILL, GOT PREGNANT AND WERE ACCUSED OF HAVING SEX BEFORE MARRIAGE SUBSEQUENTLY STONED TO DEATH BECAUSE THEY CANNOT GET FOUR ADULT MUSLIM MEN TO PROVE THAT THEY WERE RAPED. SUCH A BLOODY STUPID HUDUH LAW.

THE STUPID HUDUH LAW SAYS A WOMAN MUST BE ACCOMPANIED BY ONE MAN. IF SHE WAS RAPED, THE MOST IS ONE MAN BESIDE HER THAT CAN PROVE SHE WAS RAPED SO WHERE TO FIND ANOTHER THREE MAN TO PROVE SHE WAS RAPED. STUPID LAW INDEED.

WANT TO IMPLEMENT A LAW WITH SUCH FUNDAMENTAL FLAW?

arcadia said...

secara jujur, saya xkisah dgn hukum hudud. Sebab, sya bukan penjenayah. Cuma hukum nie b4 bwat kne la diteliti dgn bersugguh =-sungguh, bukan dibuat secara ad-hoc. Kita xnak ade kezaliman berlaku dan islam dituduh sebagai zalim.Tp mati hidup balik sya xkan sokong PKR & DAP.

Anonymous said...

What's the problem? Just like the Royalty issue, as is the 'Hudud' issue; seek a referendum strictly among the Malay/Muslim whether they want it or not. After all this is what democracy is all about isn't it? And I believe any right thinking Malaysian knows where this is heading to right?

~ Raja Bonggok

Anonymous said...

What is so great about hudud?
Look at the Muslim countries...everyday got fighting, bombing, killing innocent people.
What the hell is all that?
They should be spending time developing the country instead !!

penangan said...

salam tuan,

saya lebih ingin melihat PAS berdiri di atas namanya tanpa sebarang kerjasama dengan mana2 parti, termasuklah umno.

dalam konteks politik malaysia, PAS sebenarnya ada kekuatan untuk muncul sebagai sebuah parti pembangkang melayu yang kuat.

malah, jika ditadbir dengan betul, ia mampu mengatasi dap dan pkr.

sudah lama saya ingin meluahkan rasa hati mengenai pas ini. jika ia masih berpegang kepada cara lama, iaitu sebelum ia menyertai pakatan rakyat, saya yakin ia mampu meraih sokongan di kalangan orang melayu.

cuma yang penting, PAS harus memikirkan semula hududnya agar lebih sesuai dengan masyarakat majmuk malaysia.

Anonymous said...

better lor.

what a sickening islamic party!

tauke lim said...

i dont think pas will leave pakatan. they need the pact's strength to win next election.

if pas is alone, it will get nothing.

that also u dont know aaar!!!

pro-Bersih said...

memang elok sangat kalau pas keluar dari pakatan. selama ni pun bukan bagi sumbangan apa pun, sebaliknya menyusahkan pakatan kerana teori hudud dan macam2 kekarutan lain!

so, boleh blah!

elok keluar je hari ni!

Anonymous said...

is it true?

with the latest events, including lajim's decision, is pointing to pas agenda in sabah.

some say lajim is joining pas but he has yet to quit umno.

let's see sometimes during raya...

ketayap said...

memang elok parti ajaran sesat ni keluar dari pakatan, biar dia kering sendiri.

aku tak setuju dengan pendapat lain bahawa pas ada kekuatan sendiri.

tanpa pakatan, dia akan kojol!

Anonymous said...

PAS,DAP & PKR should focus on gettingt rid of corruption,waste of public fund,transperent and good governance when they takes Federal Gov. i dont Fuc& care of hudud or no hudud. the stinking gabage in msia need to be clean first before talking about stupid race and religion.

Anonymous said...

it's a barbaric and stupid law......civilised human cannot digest the stupidity of this law.

Anonymous said...

DAP should just keep quite abd do not comment. PAS just want to win over some fence sitters. Anyway, chinese is not worried of hudud any more they just want to "hud" BN.

Why talk about things that may not happen??? Even UMNO eschew hudud.

If DAP make too much noise and eventually if PAS team up with UMNO and win GE13, I can bet up, hudud will not be implemented also.....but BN already driven home.

LA

Anonymous said...

Tanpa PAS UMNO akan mati. Tanpa UMNO PAS pasti akan mati. Survivability kedua parti bergantung kepada kewujudan masing2. Selagi PAS berkeras dengan Hudud selagi itu UMNO akan hidup. Dan selagi itu UMNO akan merogol rakyat. Terpulang lah kepada rakyat terutama yang bagi mereka yang berkenaan.

Anonymous said...

Is PAS threatening to pull out if not given what it wants? PAS can pull out, PAS can also stand alone but PAS can still not implement hudud without 2/3 majority in Parliament. PAS alone cannot do it. Well, if PAS thinks that by joining UMNO, they can do it, then, why didn't PAS asked whether UMNO wants hudud or not. If UMNO does not want hudud, then, what is the point of PAS joining UMNO. Should PAS join a corrupt party, then, it is against their principle of fighting corruption.
Let's say UMNO agreed to implement hudud, can hudud be applied to the Prime Minister, Home Minister, etc. for corruption. Will their hands be cut off? It is easy to apply to the rakyat, but it should start with the people from the top down. We know from past experience, the top people, people with power, the law will not apply to them. Does anyone dare to cut off the PM, or Home Minister hands and the corrupted politician hands when it is found out that they are corrupt.

Anonymous said...

PAS patut campur dengan PKR dan tubuhkan Kerajaan pusat dan negeri-negeri yang dimana kedua-dua parti menang. Jangan sama seklai PAS bergabung dengan parti DAP kerana DAP adalah satu parti yang sungguh racis.

Anonymous said...

APA KAMU MENCARUT NI?!

UMNO Nak Mampus Kamu sibuk Hal Hudud

Dah Tak Ada Modal Lain Lagi Blogger UMNO Nak Tulis!!!

Ini Macam dalam perang dah habis Peluru Jadi Guna Tahi Nak Bunuh Musuh!!!

joehancl/PRAY, it works said...

Name the PAS central committee member. You takut atau you bohong, you coward

Anonymous said...

nice try but not good enough bro...

Anonymous said...

PAS leaving Pakatan??

Doubt it. PAS needs non Malay votes to win Putrajaya. PAS leaders know it.

If PAS leaves Pakatan AFTER winning Putrajaya, it will lose Govt as it will not have the majority to retain govt. PAS will never join BN because of grassroot opposition and PAS leaders who had won on non Malay votes will not support. By which time PAS will be torn asunder.

If PAS leaves Pakatan Rakyat before election, it will retain only Kelantan and lose seats in Penang, Selangor, FT and seats in urban seats.

It is wishful thinking...

Anonymous said...

PAS will not leave Pakatan Rakyat. I am a PAS senior person and I know the real situation. PAS will abide by what The Pakatan team have in consensus. Hudud is not PAS' priority but SOCIAL JUSTICE is PAS' paramount priority.
If there is NO consensus there will be NO Hudud.

Hope the readers get this. Please stop propagating wrong things.

Anonymous said...

PAS and UMNO, yah, one totally corrupt and one not corrupt.
Sleep together, soon both also corrupt. Money talks louder, Dollar$$akbar.
Want to bet?
Umno is incorrigible because all its leaders are in there for one purpose only---TO MAKE MONEY FOR THEMSELVES.

Anonymous said...

posting yang paling sangat bodoh...hahahahaha

Anonymous said...

Hudud if implemented should be fine tuned or regulated to suite our diversified custom and also the type of crime which ever has the most public outrage . If not you better try out a experiment of the hudud on animals in the jungle before implementing on humans .

PAan Villa said...

Ya Allah Ya Tuhan kami, sempena di bulan ramadhan yg mulia ini, Kau berilah petunjuk kepada mereka2 yg memerlukan petunjuk di dalam membuat sesuatu keputusan penting terhadap ummat ini khususnya di Malaysia. Ya Arhammarrahimmin, kau berikanlah petunjuk hidayah kepada golongan2 yg mengeji undang2MU ini. Sesungguhnya mereka boleh menerima undang2MU yg Maha Adil cuma mereka tidak diberi peluang untuk mempelajari perlaksanaan undang2MU itu. Bukakanlah pintu hati mereka seluas2nya utk mempelajari undang2MU yg jauh lebih adil drpada undang2 ciptaan akal waras manusia yg serba kekurangan di zaman ini. Sesungguhnya undang2 Allah adalah sesuai dilaksanakan pd zaman dahulu dan zaman sekarang. Satukan hati2 kami yg kian terpisah. Jgn disebabkan kurang mempelajari undang2MU, kami menjadi pecah belah umpama kaum aus dan khazraj sebelum kedatangan Rasulullah ke Madinah. Kami yg mempercayai keberkesanan undang2MU akan sentiasa memperjuangkan Syiar Islam tanpa mengira politik,kuasa, dan tempat. Kami percaya undang2MU bknlah undang2 "barbarian" seperti yg didakwa oleh golongan2 yg tidak mempercayai kebenaran suatu agama bernama Islam. Aminnn Ya Rabbal alamiinn.