Wednesday, July 6, 2011

Why give them a stadium???

When 500,000 Umno members wanted to hold a peaceful rally at the Merdeka Stadium on November 1, 1987, the police denied them the permit. And so, they had to jettison the plan which was meant to show undivided support towards the government.

But Bersih is given the Shah Alam Stadium (here) to hold their rally - to show their displeasure towards the government, in particular the Election Commissin which they accused of being bias.

Why must we allow them to use a stadium? What is so grand about this Bersih? And what prompted the government to offer such a place when no police permit would be issued to the anti-govt movement?

What is the guarantee that - if 300,000 people join the July 9 rally - Bersih supporters would behave in and out of the stadium?

I object!

Another thing - why is the government so open to offer a 'meeting' with Bersih 2.0 leaders? Scared, perhaps! If the Prime Minister accepts them, this will reflect how weak our administration is, and thus gives the indication that Putrajaya is recognising the organisation.

What is this? We are actually bowing out to Bersih's demand. First, they went to see Seri Paduka Baginda Yang di-Pertuan Agong, next to meet up with Najib, and last but not least will undermine BN leaders.

So, better dont allow them any stadium. Let them march in the strees and let the police do the necessary should they fail to behave.

After the statements from Yang di-Pertuan Agong, Bersih should call off the rally, and not detouring it!

26 comments:

Mat Sabo said...

Calm down... hear what your friend big dog has to say... http://bigdogdotcom.wordpress.com/2011/07/05/bersih-2-0-a-mat-king-leather-drama-that-will-not-happen/

Your style of conflict resolution technique is what we term 'forcing'... mostly resulting in win-lose situation.

Currently government is practising 'compromising'... a lose-lose situation...

Kau ni asyik nak menang je...

Anonymous said...

They deserve to use the stadium as much as anybody else because they are also the Rakyat of this nation just like you. Who are you to question the edict of the Yang Dipertuan Agong? He consented to the rally as long as it is done indoors so stop disputing it. UMNO Baru can gather 500,000 people but it will cost the country a lot of money because they will come only if they are paid.
Pak Tua

Anonymous said...

Sometimes, I think we all should change this weak government through the ballot box!

But then the alternative choice is even worse!!! But, I think there shoud some capable leaders out there somewhere..

Anonymous said...

....aaand we all should listen to you bro? adusss...letih-letih...mcm terer je!!

superman

rexuan said...

i agree with u. its unbelievale how tolerance has been taken to unexceptable level here in malaysia, and yet the illogical accusations never stop.

ibnrusd said...

"ular yang menjalar dibawah akar tidak akan hilang bisanya..." so, just relax dan bawa-bawalah bertenang :)

gagak di rimba said...

i agree.

why give them a stadium? we must stop them from organising any rally instead.

why is datuk najib meeting up with them? they are anti-govt!

i dont understand it... the other day he met with the churches!

krakatau said...

this is 1malaysia, bro. anybody dan do anything. when pm says its ok, no need for the police permit. it doesnt matter if he undermines the malays, his own people!

budak U said...

eh! kata nak suruh jangan buat perhimpunan tapi ni bagi stadium gak!

pehal pm kita ni?

khalifah said...

stadium or not, its still a rally to undermine SPR and the govt... looks like najib likes it.

will the people attending it can behave themselves? i doubt it. they are aroused with sentiment, and i believe there will be some trouble.

come on, najib! use your common sense. they are the ones who want to bring you and your govt down and now you provide them with a platform for just that.

igor said...

thank you prime minister.

you are such a sports.

next time when they want to demonstrate near seri perdana, just allow them!

anak bangsa said...

saya tidak faham apa maksud sebenar perdana menteri menyatakan kesediaan bertemu mereka dan menawarkan sebuah stadium untuk perhimpunan haram ini.

jika bersih sudah diharamkan, mengapa pula perlu diberi izin untuk meneruskan perhimpunan dan disediakan sebuah tempat yang begitu eksklusif pula?

apakah kerajaan sudah tunduk kepada desakan bersih atau bimbang kehilangan undi pada pru akan datang?

kalau setakat undi, mereka ini bukannya pengundi barisan nasional.

saya kesal dengan ini semua. datuk najib benar-benar sudah hilang pertimbangannya!

Anonymous said...

i think the stadium will be ransacked.....

they are the radicals. some might try to burn it down.

so, the next football game will be played at seri perdana's compound

jobot said...

bagi stadium je ke?

bagi la jamuan sekali!

lepas tu bagi pingat!

kemenyan said...

kalau dah diharamkan, haramkanlah sebarang perarakan dan perhimpunannya.

ni sampai bagi stadium ni, apa ke jadahnya ni?

bakal pengantin said...

TAHNIAH BERSIH 2.0

ANDA SEMUA DAPAT SOKONGAN KUAT PERDANA MENTERI!

TERUSKAN DENGAN MISI ANDA. SELEPAS NI, BUAT DI STADIUM LAIN DI SELURUH NEGARA.

Anonymous said...

Ahhhh...are we seeing another flip flop government in the making? Bending the law for the sake of an illegal organisation with a hidden agenda?

Jo Sg Buaya

Anonymous said...

elok bagi stadium merdeka je, tempat kemerdekaan diisytiharkan.

bujai said...

mat sabo, bro

aku bukan nak menang. tetapi oleh kerana perhimpunan bersih sudah diharamkan, kenapa pula kita perlu bertolak ansur?

bolehkah kita bertolak ansur dengan benda lain yang juga haram?

Mat Sabo said...

Bro Bujai,

Baca ni dulu http://ruangbicarafaisal.blogspot.com/2011/07/tindakan-datuk-najib-kemas-dan-bijak.html

Dulu perhimpunan tu haram sebab tak de permit. Sekarang venue sudah tukar, tengok haram lagi ke tak... kena tunggu permit polis.

People need channels to express their opinion. What DS Najib does shows good governance. Like I said previously... it is a lose-lose situation for both but everybody will be safe.

Tapi pelik jugak... one of Bersih 2.0 objectives was to send a memorandum to the Agong. Hari tu dah jumpa Agong awat tak bagi terus... something to ponder upon...

Anonymous said...

kalau dah haram, haramlah, kan jai? kenapa nak dihalal dan digalakkan pulak?


dari awal2 lagi kerajaan dah kata perhimpunan bersih 9 julai ni adalah perhimpunan haram.

ni yang tak paham ni!

bujai said...

pak tua,

when did i question yang di-pertuan agong? it was not agong who suggested bersih to use a stadium for their rally....

Anonymous said...

just say you agree to give them the stadium but the stadium authorities can reject them for fear of potential damage

in the end ambiga got to hold it at her luxurious home and also at mansions belonging to anwar, lge, lks, ks et al

Anonymous said...

illegal coz potential harm to the people if held on the streets

if held in stadium only the troublemakers are present - they can kill themselves while we watch - so with permit, legal lah

ambiga cannot, then say "aiyoyo this cannot, that cannot, what can"

ama apa enna deh??

Anonymous said...

Zaman dulu kalau engkar dengan titah Tuanku dan menyoal balik akan dipancung kepala serta merta.

Nak biadap ke?

Anonymous said...

Bro Jai...

Ok, lets have it at a stadium...but as DRY said yesterday NOT at any of d 3 stadums in kl...i think all of us agree dat a public gathering of such a nature could only resulted in nightmares for everyone -- you, me n the rest of joe public, let alone d police in handling it.

As Khalid Ibrahim had proposed Stadium Melawati in Shah Alam..i failed to c d rationale in having it at Stadium Merdeka...other than it was planned to cause havoc n a big ruckus in kl on saturday...y merdeka stadium? And y not in shah alam?

U wanna stadium go do it in shah alam where d capacity is more than 80, 000 rather than merdeka stadium which is much lesser...y?

If u do not planned to create trouble in d middle of kl than wat it is? Wat is ur intention??

2nd question dat begs an answer -- u met wit The Agong...u shud hv presented d memo already...y u x hand it over to him?? Y??

If some ppl think they hv d right to a peaceful demonstration then there r others like u n me bro jai n the joe public who hv d right to have a peaceful saturday -- sans traffic congestion in d heart of kl juz bcoz some ppl think they hv d rights over d others...

U c my point?? Or u r of d sick mind that unsick ppl could x longer argue??

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